Monthly Archives: April 2015

Brené Brown: 3 Things You Can Do to Stop a Shame Spiral

shame spiral ecard

It’s been a while since I featured any Brene Brown and her work is so integral to the drinking and recovery journey that I thought it was long over due so you’re getting a double dose today and tomorrow! If you haven’t read my post on drinking guilt and its big brother shame you can do that here.  It continues to be my most read post even though I wrote it 14 months ago so thank you! 🙂

Brene on Oprah – there are LOTS more clips on Youtube and every time I disappear into that rabbit hole I’m gone for hours and you could be too!  Go look 🙂

The take-aways from this clip on how to stop a shame spiral:

  1. Know your shame triggers and reality check them
  2. Talk to yourself like you talk to someone you love
  3. Reach out to someone you trust
  4. Tell your story

If shame is still a huge gremlin for you then I can really recommend reading Brene’s books or watching her interviews on Youtube or now even better – she also has a course on Udemy!!  I was so delighted to be told about this course by NoMoreSally and it is on my wish list for my next sober treat.  So Brene and I are fellow Udemy instructors 😉 LOL lets face it that’s the closest I’m going to get 😀

So if you would like to do some more work on healing your shame then go here:

And tomorrow we do blame, something that is still very much a work in progress for me ……

‘Our NHS can’t afford for alcohol to get any cheaper’

Times advert Alcohol Alliance

This advert ran in The Times on the 26th February and this was the text:

Alcohol Health Alliance: ‘our NHS can’t afford for alcohol to get any cheaper’

As seen in The Times

The Alcohol Health Alliance (AHA) is urging the Chancellor to reinstate the alcohol duty escalator in this year’s budget, so as to allow the alcohol industry to make a fairer contribution to the harm caused.

The alcohol duty escalator was scrapped last year following intense lobbying by the alcohol industry. The Treasury has estimated that this will cost the Exchequer over £1.5 billion over five years, enough to cover the annual salaries of more than 9500 nurses or over 1.3 million emergency ambulance call-outs a year – more than a quarter of the current annual total.

The government estimates that the cost of alcohol related harm to the NHS totals £3.7 billion every year – equivalent to £120 for every tax payer in the country. The wider cost to the UK economy is estimated to be more than £21billion – more than double the £10 billion revenue currently generated from alcohol taxes.

In an advert published in The Times today (see below), members of the AHA express concern that the alcohol industry, which already receives significant tax breaks, is calling for further cuts in duty at a time when the NHS is under increasing pressure from preventable alcohol-related admissions.

With the public purse straining under the pressure, the issue has also become more pertinent to the public. A recent survey by the AHA found that over three quarters of the UK public want tax levels on alcohol to either stay the same or to be increased. The AHA has previously asked for a meeting with ministers from the treasury but these requests have been declined.

Professor Sir Ian Gilmore, chair of the Alcohol Health Alliance UK and special advisor on alcohol to the Royal College of Physicians said:

‘The taxpayer is already paying too much to foot the bill of alcohol misuse to the NHS and wider society. Funding to our NHS is at crisis point and yet the Government’s tax breaks given to the alcohol industry last year would be enough to pay for an additional 9,500 nurses to work in our A&E departments.

It is disappointing and regrettable that we have to take out an advert in the Times to try to get through to Ministers at the Treasury to impress on them the urgency and importance of this matter.   It is time that Government stopped listening to alcohol ‘big business’ to the exclusion of independent health experts and the public.’

References for figures quoted can be found here.

Fieldwork for the AHA survey was undertaken between the 23rd October and the 9th November 2014, with a final sample of 3077 respondents. All UK countries were represented and data was weighted by age, gender and socio-economic classification to be representative of the resident population: as a whole and at a country and English region level.

By the time this post goes up we’ll know the budget results from 18th March and whether this plea has fallen on ears deafened by the sound of the lobbying of the alcohol industry – which it seems it did:

Industry profits trump public health as alcohol duty cut yet again in Budget

Breathalyser ‘on the door’ schemes see further roll-out

This is being reblogged from Alcohol Policy UK as they do such a great write up that I don’t see the point in re-inventing the wheel 🙂 Breathalyser ‘on the door’ schemes see further roll-out

A growing number of areas are introducing breathalysers on the door of premises in attempts to reduce alcohol-related problems. The initiatives appear to be gaining momentum following particular successes reported in Torquay and Norwich.

An evaluation of a pilot involving 23 of Torquay’s key nightspots during December 2014 claimed to have reduced violent crime by 39%. Torquay named the initiative #RU2drunk to help promote awareness of the scheme which saw doormen breathalyse over 800 people, of whom over one third were subsequently refused entry. However premises decided on their own criteria and not all opted for a fixed limit for refusing entry.

Police in Norwich were reportedly the first to use the scheme in 2013, which has since been continued ‘indefinitely’. The Norwich initiative was reported to have reduced violent crime by 32% and drunk and disorderly arrests by 66%. 

Other similar schemes have been recently reported in Northampton, Mansfield, York, Birmingham, Durham, Liverpool and other areas. In London, the Met police are looking at wider roll-out of the scheme following pilots in Croydon and other boroughs which have used a breath alcohol content reading of 0.70 – twice the legal drink drive limit – as a basis for refusing entry.

All in favour?  

As part of the evaluation of Torquay’s scheme, Exeter University found 79% of the public thought it was a good idea, and 70% of licensees thought the scheme should continue.

Some pubs elsewhere however have rejected the scheme, and speaking at the 2015 Pubwatch conference, Norfolk Police licensing Inspector Ed Brown said that he had been named “captain killjoy of the fun police”. However he said there had been “a lot of rumour, myth and scaremongering” about the nature of the scheme.

Indeed many of the premises have used breathalysers as an aid to door staff’s decision making, rather than universally applying a fixed limit. Exeter University researcher Dr Katherine Boyd said using the breathalyser was welcomed by many door staff as it reduced room for argument about the person’s level of drunkenness, thus reducing conflicts.

Changing attitudes to drunkeness and the Night Time Economy?

Last year a report ‘One too many?’ called for a review of the legislation on ‘sales to drunks’ – one of the most under enforced laws on the statute books. It highlighted that addressing drunkenness and associated problems is a complex area for which no single initiative is likely to provide a lasting solution. So whilst initiatives such as breathalysing on the door may show positive local results, achieving longer term shifts in attitudes towards pre-loading and drunkenness may require sustainable action on many such fronts.

I like this initiative a great deal 🙂 What do you think?

3rd May 2015 Edited to add: this has now been extended in Cambridgeshire to include the town centre McDonald’s and football ground

Breath test with your Big Mac


Public Health England invests £10million in drug and alcohol recovery services

Public Health England (PHE) has announced the successful applicants for £10 million of capital funding for services that are helping people in England with drug or alcohol problems to recover from their addiction. Over 50 projects across England, in partnership with local authorities, will receive grants from PHE.

People recovering from addiction can have extremely limited skills or employment experience, and often have significant problems with unstable accommodation. Increasing evidence shows jobs and houses play a major role in successfully completing treatment from addiction. Out of the designated £10m capital funding, PHE has awarded a substantial proportion to projects that provide tailored education, training, skills and employment support to people in recovery, and to projects that provide safe and secure accommodation from which it’s possible to recover.

This is the second year that Public Health England has led a programme of £10m capital investment in drug and alcohol recovery services, following a successful programme in 2013-14, in which a range of innovative recovery focused projects received funding.

Rosanna O’Connor, Director of Alcohol, Drugs and Tobacco at Public Health England said:

“I’m delighted that for a second year we can support an outstanding range of exciting and innovative local projects.”

“Drug and alcohol misuse is a complex issue that causes significant harm to society. I am hugely encouraged by the level of commitment to improving recovery services, both from within the sector and among local authorities. These services will make a real difference to people in recovery, and communities across the country. I am particularly pleased that Public Health England is able to invest in services that will help people in recovery into work and to have a safe, supportive place to live.”

I like that this is recovery focused rather than treatment focused 🙂

Calling time on missed opportunities: commissioning alcohol services to reduce avoidable harm

This was an interesting supplement that was covered by Guidelines in Practice a best practice online resource and was titled: Calling time on missed opportunities: commissioning alcohol services to reduce avoidable harm.  It carried a big old disclaimer before you even read the piece outlining Lundbeck’s, the pharmaceutical company responsible for Selincro (nalmefene) the new drug recently approved by NICE for use in alcohol harm reduction.

This was the abstract:

A multidisciplinary group of professionals involved in the clinical and societal management of patients with alcohol dependence met in Spring 2014, with the objective of defining themes for future developments in the management of alcohol dependence. Six themes were identified and 40 consensus statements were developed across these themes. The statements were presented as questionnaires, either as paper documents or electronically, and distributed to professionals engaged in the management of alcohol dependence in the UK. Questionnaires were completed by 194 respondents in a variety of roles associated with the management of alcohol dependence. Thirty-one of the 40 statements (77.5%) achieved agreement scores in excess of 66%, and 26 statements achieved very high consensus >90%. Only nine statements failed to achieve consensus agreement of >66%. The responses from the contributors to this consensus process informed the three recommendations put forward by the expert advisory group:

  1. addressing alcohol-related harm must be a commissioning priority
  2. collaborative approaches between clinical commissioning groups and local authorities are needed to develop and fund effective alcohol services
  3. local strategies are needed to increase the number of people accessing services and to engage a wider group of people using alcohol.

And they conclude:

The expert advisory group welcomes the very high levels of agreement from the treatment and commissioning communities on the importance of tackling alcohol problems. However, the responses to statements about the services currently being commissioned and delivered make challenging reading and require a clear and rapid response to drive improvement.

Put simply, the majority of the respondents do not believe that alcohol misuse is appropriately prioritised by CCGs, HWBs, and Local Authorities; the responsibility for addressing alcohol problems is unclear and therefore funding is often insufficient.
The large numbers of drinkers who are at risk of harm are not covered by the current services, and the services that are ultimately delivered are not seen as effective in improving physical or mental health by almost one-half of the respondents.

This must change rapidly to minimise mortality and morbidity and ensure appropriate use of NHS and Local Authority resources. Failure to do so will represent a significant missed
opportunity in addressing this urgent health and public health need.

The full research supplement can be read here.

I agree with all that they say but find myself gnashing my teeth somewhat.  Yes, yes we know all of this but it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference does it?  And why does it take the involvement of the pharma industry to point out the bleeding obvious? <sigh>

What do you think?

Children pay highest price for inaction on alcohol-fuelled violence

This was a national report from Australia that was picked up by the UK press looking at how children pay the highest price for inaction on alcohol-fuelled violence.  The study found that more than a million children are currently harmed by other people’s drinking in Australia.

The hidden harm: Alcohol’s impact on children and families

Funded by the Foundation for Alcohol Research and Education (FARE) and undertaken by the Centre for Alcohol Policy Research (CAPR), The hidden harm: Alcohol’s impact on children and families, reveals the full extent of alcohol-related family and domestic violence in Australia.

The 2015 study examined the prevalence and effects of heavy drinking on families and children, and the extent to which they persisted or changed over time.

It paints a concerning picture of the prevalence of alcohol-related family and domestic violence in Australia, shedding new light on a hidden dimension of alcohol harms that occurs largely behind closed doors.

Key findings

The hidden harm draws on two national surveys of alcohol’s harm to others, service system data and qualitative interviews with families, providing for the first time a detailed and valuable insight into the magnitude of the problem and the large numbers of Australian children who are being put at risk.

  • In 2011 there were 29,684 police-reported incidents of alcohol-related domestic violence in Australia, and that’s just in the four states and territories where this data is available.
  • Children are being verbally abused, left in unsupervised or unsafe situations, physically hurt or exposed to domestic violence because of others’ drinking. Many were also witnessing verbal or physical conflict, drinking or inappropriate behaviour.
  • Over a million children (22 per cent of all Australian children) are estimated to be affected in some way by the drinking of others (2008). 142,582 children were substantially affected (2008), and more than 10,000 Australian children are in the child protection system because of a carers drinking (2006-07).

Further information

The director of the McCusker Centre for Action on Alcohol and Youth, Professor Mike Daube, said given the prime minister, Tony Abbott, had flagged domestic violence to be on the next Council of Australian Governments agenda, alcohol’s contribution should be a key part of that discussion.

He agreed with the report that action was needed politically on alcohol price, access, promotion and education.

If ever a report deserved to be described as a wake-up call, this is it,” Daube said.

“The report shows the massive impacts of alcohol on others – especially children, women and families who are least able to protect themselves.

“The extent of the impacts should come as a shock, from domestic violence to child protection cases. Sadly, the figures provided are probably an underestimate.”

In 2012, a study from the Northern Territory also found high-risk drinking was linked with high rates of physical harm.

Published in the journal Substance Abuse Treatment, Prevention, and Policy, it reported the incidence of alcohol-related trauma among Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in the Northern Territory was the highest in the world.

A separate study published the same year in the journal Addiction found children were the victims of alcohol-related harm in more than one-fifth of Australian households.

The chief executive of Domestic Violence Victoria, Fiona McCormack, said it was a common myth that alcohol was the cause of family violence.

“Just because somebody drinks, it doesn’t mean they’re abusive, and abusive people don’t all abuse alcohol,” she said.

“We’ve got to be very clear that the causes of violence against women and children are primarily about sexist attitudes held by some men, and unequal power relations between men and women.”

However, alcohol was a contributing factor towards family violence, she said.

“It’s a welcome report, and it’s terrific to see so many different sectors working together to address the issue of family violence,” McCormack said.

I sincerely hope in this case that it isn’t an underestimate because 22% – over 1 in 5 of all Australian children – being affected is a truly shocking statistic …..

Students offered alcohol-free flats at St Andrews University

From the BBC News website – more good news from sensible Scotland!  Students are to be offered alcohol free flats at St Andrews University in Fife.

Students who want to live in alcohol-free accommodation are being given the chance at St Andrews University.

It has been introduced to cater for students with religious beliefs or medical conditions that do not allow drinking.

The move from the Fife institution is thought to be the first time alcohol-free student accommodation has been offered in Scotland.

It will be offered at David Russell Apartments in Fife Park from September.

The flats each hold between four to six people.

Students will be asked to tick a box on their accommodation forms giving them the option.

Pat Mathewson, St Andrews Students’ Association, said: “Our residential services have decided they will offer a small section and then see what the uptake is like.

“We’re always in favour of anything that will make our students more comfortable.

“By no means are any students going to be forced into student accommodation they haven’t asked for.”

A St Andrews University spokeswoman said: “The University of St Andrews is committed to creating a safe, healthy, and inclusive campus experience for all of our students.

“We know that not all students drink alcohol.

“What’s more, we believe student learning lasts a lifetime, so reinforcing positive behaviours during this period of development can have a lasting influence.”

She added: “We’re proud that our Students’ Association is working to shape new attitudes towards responsible alcohol consumption and making our student experience more inclusive. We want our students to think about their lifestyle choices, and to support the choices of others.”

Fantastic news for those who want to avoid booze for whatever reason 🙂

Edited to add: so I’m just back from a run and it’s gloriously sunny and this track spins round in my mp3 player.  So I LOVE this tune – takes me right back to Glastonbury (yes the old me – too much drugs and drink!) but the new me (reminiscing about running the London Marathon which is on Sunday) thinks lets set up a sober Friday jukebox.  I know my blog can be serious and heavy at times so lets lighten it up a bit and who knows maybe we can grow a big ole sober play list for all us runners, and non runners too!  Who doesn’t need more music in their life?  😉  What dya think?  What tunes would you include?

Here goes track one:

And the lyrics are so BLOODY appropriate too!!

I kicked the habit
Shed my skin
This is the new stuff
I go dancing in
Oh won’t you show for me
I will show for you
Show for me, I will show for you


Edited 23/09/15:

The rise of the sober students: Freshers Week has never been so teetotal

Smoking Makes It Harder to Stop Drinking

This research was picked up by the excellent Castle Craig blog in March and looks at how being a smoker makes it harder to stop drinking.

Researchers at Yale University have found that smoking might be hampering treatment for alcohol abuse. Their research paper (“Tobacco smoking interferes with GABA receptor neuroadaptations during prolonged alcohol withdrawal”) indicates that, contrary to popular belief, continuing to smoke while abstaining from drinking does not make the process of withdrawal  from alcohol any easier to manage – and in fact may be making recovery from alcohol addiction far more difficult than it already is.

An airbag for the nervous system

As part of the study, the brains of the research subjects – made up of a mixture of alcoholic and non-alcoholic volunteers – were scanned to measure the levels of GABA (A). The GABA receptors in the brain control our responses to stressful situations. They can be thought of as acting like a kind of airbag for the nervous system: in situations of stress they slow down brain activity and reduce anxiety, just like the actual airbag in a car, which cushions the force of impact in the event of a crash.

In chemical dependents and alcoholics this cushioning effect is already not functioning at full capacity, and smoking, while no doubt providing an illusion of relaxation to many, could in fact be aggravating the problem.

The results indicated a link between the levels of GABA(A) in the brains of those who continued to smoke while abstaining from alcohol. Levels of alcohol craving among those who continued to smoke during abstinence were also found to be as much as twice as high as among the non-smokers.

Cigarettes, the recovering alcoholic’s best friend?

For some alcoholics in recovery, however, smoking can be one way to ease their withdrawal from drinking, and it is well known that many alcoholics do indeed smoke. Indeed, a cigarette can be someone’s best friend, especially when that person is struggling with alcohol withdrawal.

But, as discussed above, this new research from Yale University shows that this so-called best friend could in fact be acting as an obstacle to recovery from alcoholism. In an ideal world, therefore, recovering alcoholics would do well to give up smoking, too.

The hard reality of withdrawal

That said, curbing two addictions at the same time is something many alcoholics would say is impossible. So while the lessons of this research are quite clear, in the chaotic world of alcoholism it may be a tall order indeed for someone to kick a nicotine habit while also trying to quit drinking, particularly in the early days of recovery.

I completely concur that it’s a big ask in the early days and I stopped smoking on a daily basis a year before I stopped drinking but still had the occasional lapse on a night out.  I haven’t smoked since I stopped drinking though and if I was to relapse on anything now it would probably be a fag rather than a drink ……  What’s your experience?

PS Today should have been the day that I shared Veronica and I’s discussion about Step 9 but we’ve hit a technical glitch.  As you may or may not be aware Veronica is on maternity leave so we’ve decided to continue releasing steps 10 – 12 as planned over the next few weeks and we’ll circle back on step 9 when she’s back.  Apologies 🙂

Edited to add 5th May 2015: Prim linked this brilliant blog by Patrick over at Spiritual River who had this to add about smoking “Part of the path in recovery should include quitting smoking. Why? Because it is another step toward wellness. The holistic path will eliminate bad habits such as smoking. Many in early recovery hang on to this habit for a few years, but eventually people realize that they are still using nicotine to self medicate with, and that it is killing them. Also, those who manage to quit smoking in recovery have less tendency to relapse on drugs and alcohol, too. So quitting smoking is like insurance against relapse.”

Alcohol in the UK key facts and figures

I’ve been meaning to write this kind of post for a while.   I’ve been doing an online course with the Substance Misuse Management in General Practice (SMMGP) that covers all this data so thought I would put it up here now and then it’s done! So here it is – alcohol in the UK key facts and figures.

Let’s start with the key data:

Definitions of alcohol misuse (please click to open document to see definitions)

Prevalence of alcohol use disorders:


So just to underline that data 17.6 million fall into the drinking at increasing risk and above category (although some of those will be occasional binge drinkers only).  In the UK there are 51.2 million people over the age of 16 (ONS, 2011) so that is 34% or 1 in 3 ……

Alcohol and the NHS:

  1. Alcohol is the third highest risk factor for ill health after high blood pressure and tobacco.
  2. One in five adults seeing a GP drink at hazardous or harmful levels
  3. Problem drinkers consult their GP twice as often as average patients
  4. 35% of A&E and ambulance costs are alcohol related

Problem drinking, families and communities:

  1. Almost half of violent assaults are alcohol related
  2. There are strong links between alcohol abuse and domestic violence and marital breakdown
  3. 27% of children serious case reviews mention alcohol abuse
  4. 16% of road fatalities involve alcohol

Annual cost of alcohol related harm:

  1. Total cost to society £21 billion
  2. Crime in England £11 billion
  3. NHS in England £3.5 billion
  4. Lost UK productivity £7 billion

There are effective treatments for the range of alcohol misuse problems and United Kingdom Alcohol Treatment Trials (UKATT) show that for every £1 spent on evidence based treatment the public saves £5.

And having studied the Kings College Understanding Addiction course that figure rises to £8 saved if you tackle addiction within adolescence.

There is so much more we could be doing to help people both sooner in terms of age of onset of problem drinking and also sooner in terms of offering support and help while people are still reachable before physical addiction is triggered.  As Unpickled said – you don’t wait until someone is morbidly obese before you suggest a healthy eating plan so why would you wait until someone is physically addicted to alcohol before you offer assistance to quit?

Edited to add: 13.17 I apologise if you’ve been trying to access the site in the last 4 hours and have been unable to do so.  My website server has been under DDoS attack.  Hopefully full service has now been restored 🙂

Edited to add: 26th June 2015

Statistics on Alcohol, England, 2015

This statistical report acts as a reference point for health issues relating to alcohol use and misuse, providing information obtained from a number of sources in a user-friendly format. It covers topics such as drinking habits and behaviours among adults (aged 16 and over) and school children (aged 11 to 15); drinking-related ill health and mortality; affordability of alcohol; alcohol-related admissions to hospital; and alcohol-related costs. The report contains previously published information and also includes additional new analyses | HSCIC, UK


The elderly are society’s new booze baddies

Thanks to Laura at Club Soda for sending me the link to this news piece in The Spectator in February.  It discussed the fact that now that the young are turning tee-total, the best hope for the survival of heavy drinking lies with the old who have become society’s new booze baddies.

The gulf in understanding between the old and the young has widened with the news that the young are beginning to turn teetotal. If there was one thing that the old thought they knew about the young, it was that they drank too much. British youth led the world in its enthusiasm for alcohol. Our cities swarmed with loutish binge drinkers. Yet now, all of a sudden, we learn that abstinence is becoming fashionable. The number of people under 25 who don’t touch a drop has increased by 40 per cent in eight years. More than a quarter of people in this age group now don’t drink anything at all. What is going on?

The conditions for heavy drinking would seem to be perfect: there is economic hardship and a generally gloomy outlook on most fronts. It can seldom have been more tempting to seek oblivion in alcohol. Yet the financial crash of 2008 seems to have had the opposite effect. It is since then that the tide has turned. It is true that times are hard and drinking is much more expensive than it used to be, but cost has never deterred the determined drinker. Nor is it possible to believe that government health campaigns have had much effect; they have never impressed the young. It is true that Muslims and Sikhs tend not to drink, but there are still not enough of them in our midst to have much impact on the statistics. There must be different explanations.

It could be that other addictions have been replacing alcohol. There is little time for group bingeing if one is glued to one’s computer or smart phone, and the digital world has its own numbing effect. Could it be, on the contrary, that the young are imbued with a new energy, optimism and sense of purpose? It would be nice to think so, but this would be really surprising. I am lost in incomprehension. But I have found from my own experience that far more people of all ages now turn down a drink when they are offered one.

The best hope for the survival of heavy drinking now lies with the old. It is to them that the health experts have turned their attention. More and more elderly men and women are now drinking too much, they say, because they don’t know what else to do with their free time. Once they have mown the lawn, or whatever else retired people do to keep themselves busy, they take out the bottle (for most of them the computer is probably no substitute). I can believe this, though how the experts think they know how much old people drink is something of a mystery, since they also say that this is a ‘hidden’ problem and difficult to detect. But this doesn’t stop them campaigning against it, warning of illness and early death and calling for higher alcohol prices in supermarkets, high though they already are.

Whatever the truth, I feel that they should leave us alone. Private drinking by the old may be a problem, but it is a private problem, not a social one. It is not a problem about which ‘something must be done’. Binge drinking among the young needs addressing, because it leads to violence and disorder on the streets. But you never see gangs of elderly drunks rampaging through city centres.

It should also be recognised that many people find it hard to get through life without a bit to drink, and it is often surprising how little it can impair their performance. Winston Churchill might not have withstood the strain of the war without regular doses of brandy, and Margaret Thatcher was dependent on a glass of whisky at bedtime. Even journalists, who are now pretty abstemious, weren’t noticeably worse at their jobs when they were regularly sozzled.

So everything is now topsy-turvy. The old are becoming heavier drinkers than the young, who are edging along the road towards teetotalism. The upshot is that the old are coming to be seen as the baddies in society, which is rather an invigorating change. It may even help us feel young again. So let us relish our new role and do so in peace.

My response to this story was: and this is a bad thing because? …..  The booze industry must really be scared because if they’re relying on the older drinkers when they die where will their new customer base come from?  Maybe the younger generation are just fed up with seeing their parents and grandparents p*ssed and it’s made it ‘not cool’.  What do you think?