Drink-driving: Doctors’ alliance calls for cut to limit

Drink-drive-3So as outlined yesterday these series of posts will look at different issues related to alcohol – starting with this headline about an alliance of doctors’ lobbying parliament for a cut to the drink drive limit.

Drink-driving: Doctors’ alliance calls for cut to limit

A group of doctors and health experts is urging the House of Lords to support a bill to lower the drink-driving limit across the whole of the UK.

They want England, Wales and Northern Ireland brought in line with Scotland.

The bill proposes amending the 1988 Road Traffic Act to lower the blood-alcohol concentration limit from 80mg alcohol per 100ml of blood to 50mg.

The government said the current limit struck a balance between safety and personal freedom.

The bill, which will be debated in the Lords on Friday, also proposes lowering the limits for alcohol in breath and urine when driving a vehicle.

Because everyone has a different susceptibility to alcohol, health experts say it is difficult to quantify exactly how many units can be drunk before reaching the proposed new limit.

For the average man, it would be just under a pint of beer or a large glass of wine and for women, half a pint of beer or a small glass of wine.

Accident risk

In a letter to the Times, the Alcohol Health Alliance said the move would save lives and improve road safety.

The alliance, which is made up of organisations including the Royal College of Physicians, the British Medical Association and Alcohol Concern, said that at the current limit, drivers are six times more likely to die in a road traffic accident than those who have not drunk any alcohol.

It said a vote in favour of the bill would signal to the government that “now is the time time to lower the drink-driving limit”.

Scotland lowered its drink-driving limit to the proposed new level in December 2014 and police figures show that drink-drive offences there fell by 17% in the first three months of 2015.

Northern Ireland is currently consulting on whether to lower its limit.

At present, England, Wales and Northern Ireland have one of the highest drink-driving limits in Europe.

The World Health Organization recommends a limit of 50mg/100ml.

Prof Sir Ian Gilmore, chair of the Alcohol Health Alliance and honorary professor in clinical science at the University of Liverpool, said the overriding reason for lowering the limit was that “several hundreds of lives could be saved in England each year”.

And he said the scientific evidence for the change was strong.

Driving deterioration

“There is a wealth of published, peer-reviewed, high quality research on the impact of alcohol on psychomotor skills and judgement.

“While even low levels have an effect on these critical functions, the deterioration in performance moving from a blood level of 50 to 80mg per 100ml are striking.”

Prof Gilmore said there was public support for a lowering of the legal drink-drive limit at a time when drink-driving appears to be on the rise.

The Local Government Association recently estimated that lowering the current limit would also save nearly ยฃ300m a year by reducing police and ambulance call-outs and hospital admissions.

Personal freedom

A spokesman for the Department for Transport said: “The drink-driving limit for England and Wales strikes an important balance between safety and personal freedom.

“By having our limit, we are not criminalising those who drink a small amount a long time before driving, but our advice remains unchanged: don’t take the risk by driving after you have had a drink.”

People who have served road bans in England and Wales for serious drink-driving offences have to pass a medical examination before they can regain their licence.

Further coverage:

Public calls for lower drink drive limit as Lords debate road safety law

29 January 2016: Research released today shows an overwhelming majority (77%) of the British public support lowering the drink drive legal limit, which would bring England and Wales in line with Scotland and the rest of the EU. The polling data, from the Alcohol Health Alliance UK, is published the same day the House of Lords will debate a Private Members Bill to lower the legal limit | Alcohol Health Alliance UK, UK

Road Traffic Act 1988 (Alcohol Limits) (Amendment) Bill [HL]

Second reading, House of Lords at 10:56 am onย 29th January 2016 | They Work For You, UK

Drink drive limit could be cut by third, ministers say

Andrew Jones, a transport minister, says that the drink drive limit could be lowered in England and Wales is there is ‘robust evidence’ that it has improved road safety in Scotland

Which prompts the start of the industry media fightback …..

Rural pubs could close if drink drive limit is lowered

And this interesting ITV documentary that showed earlier this week showcases the difference in driving ability at theย  two different levels.


Jonathan Maitland examines how much is too much when it comes to drink.

Edited to add: 11th April 2016

Why drink driving is so dangerous

A bitesized guide to why a couple of drinks might not make your driving worse, but your decision making will be seriously impaired | Guardian, UK

Edited to add: 6th Feb 2017

A Freedom of Information request to the DVLA by the Press Association showed 219,008 people were caught drink-driving more than once in the same period, said the BBC.ย More than 8,000 motorists have been caught driving over the limit twice in the past five years.

Edited to add: 14th Oct 2017

Drink drive figures: cause for concern in 2017?



10 thoughts on “Drink-driving: Doctors’ alliance calls for cut to limit

  1. interesting stuff Lou….. have had a look at Hansard* and I see the House of Lords approved the basics of this when they debated it on 11 March. you can see its progress here.**

    however the Government are against it in principle – despite 77% of the public being for it…. here’s what the Under-Secretary of State for Transport said:

    ‘Drink-driving is still responsible for too many deaths and injuries. In order to prevent this, we will continue to take tough action against the small number of drivers who ignore the drink-drive limit. Many drivers killed in drink-drive collisions, or prosecuted for drinking and driving, are significantly over the drink-drive limit. The Government therefore believe that rigorous enforcement and serious penalties for drink-drivers, particularly these dangerous individuals, are a more effective deterrent than changing the drink-drive limit.’

    having had a bit more of a dig I found some statistics on the numbers of drivers involved in accidents*** and figures have actually improved significantly between 2004 and 2014:

    2004 2014

    Number of all drivers in accidents 362,000 246,000
    Percentage breath tested 51% 51%
    Number failing breath test 7,430 3,681

    which is a move in the right direction and cheered me up this morning!

    there are huge logic holes in the Govts position – arguing both that severe penalties are the way forward, AND that there’s no point lowering the limit because people won’t change their behaviour are directly contradictory!

    I would like to see some statistics too on his ‘many’ drivers killed… what’s that figure? what is the actual figure of lives that could be saved if the limit was lowered? as on MUP the Govt are hiding behind the skirts of “let’s see what happens in Scotland before we do anything ourselves…”

    love to you and happy sober Sunday morning – that never gets old ๐Ÿ™‚ xxx

    * http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201516/ldhansrd/text/160311-

    ** http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2015-16/roadtrafficact1988alcohollimitsamendment/stages.html

    *** https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/ras51-reported-drinking-and-driving

    1. Thank you lovely Prim for adding to the value of the post with your data finds!! ๐Ÿ™‚ xx

  2. PS Happy 2 and a half years for tomorrow!!! *turning sober cartwheels round my kitchen table* xxxxx

    1. Thank you missus ๐Ÿ˜€ Off for a run to celebrate – no hangover you see ๐Ÿ˜‰ xx

  3. Ah, yes, Prim and Lou, sober Sunday mornings never get old :D. As Prim noted the “Stiffer penalties for the offenders” doesn’t help the innocent victims affected by the drunk driver’s actions. That photo and caption are chilling and thought-provoking! xx

  4. Strong photo! That gets the message home I would assume.
    Personally I am for a no alcohol when driving but not sure if that is feasable. I mean, even orange juice that has been out for a while can contain up to 1,5%.
    xx, Feeling

  5. Overtime the US lowers the drunk driving limit, the rates of death and accidents fall.
    So it really does help.
    But I also know that many people I know still drive over the limit.

    1. I agree it helps Wendy but there will always be those who ignore the law anyway! xx

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